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Quiet Warrior
Am I right or wrong?
I manage a group home for mentally ill adults. I have three staff. One on first. One on second. One on third. My third shift is about to drive me crazy. She is young. Still lives at home. My 2nd shift is out for the weekend with an illness. The 3rd shift girl--informed me she was taking friday and Saturday off. so now my 1st shift tech and I have to do twelve hours shifts. I put 3rd shift where she would get no overtime this week and now she is mad. In my mind she doesn't deserve any. she could have worked her scheduled shift and still attended the visitation and funeral and NOT left the rest of us hanging. Was what I did right or wrong? Please explain your answers.
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I have two part time positions open. Nobody want to work with "crazy" people. The clients not me.
                     
 




Emma Monkey
There's nothing worse than having to work with someone who doesn't pull their weight. In a job like yours, where there isn't many staff and you have to rely on each other, you don't need employees who are going to take as much time off as they can. By doing what you've done, she should now realise that she can't mess people around and still get privileges. Good on ya for doing it, I wish the manager where I work would take the same stance.


miatalise12560
You're the boss. It's the Memorial Day weekend and we all want a little time off.....too bad it couldn't have been worked out in advance....like, we'll do a twelve hour shift on the Memorial Day Weekend and you two do twelve hour shifts on the July 4 weekend.....maybe that's not legal, I don't know....but could your workers walk out and really leave you hanging? The clientel you work with are very challenging....how can you make it a happy place for all of you? How can everyone get a break on a national holiday?


Jeff L.
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wrong


kldavis1013
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First off...who's the boss here? Your 3rd shift girl "informed you she was taking a day off?" What the heck? Every job I worked at required AT LEAST a weeks notice for one day (except for emergency) and if not, I was told "sorry".

You did right by not giving the 3rd shift OT, as again, how could she get OT if she doesn't actually work over 40 hrs/week?

More power to you however for doing this job. I've been there and done that myself...oh what fun.


kimber1731
well i guess it would depend on who had died. if it was a parent sibling then i can understand her wanting a little time off but if it was someone who was not real close then she could have worked. so i guess that you are right but if it was an immediate family member who passed then you are wrong


gekker
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Quite honestly it depends on who died, if a close relative, she is right, if not, than she is wrong.


myconfusion101
I'm a woman, and I think I'm a pretty strong woman (personality-wise)...however, I do not feel I'm management material, and I prefer not to have a female boss. THIS IS MY OWN OPINION!! For some reason, MANY (not ALL) female bosses are less apt to bend or work with their employees (especially their female employees) when something arises. I've had female bosses who had children of their own and were even single moms, but were NEVER understanding when I had to stay home with my sick child or take off a little early to attend a parent-teacher conference. When I would return to work the next day, I would get dirty looks, the silent treatment, the crappy shifts, etc. You name it. It's so ridiculous! For crying out loud!! SO WHAT IF SHE LIVES AT HOME?!?!? SHE CAN'T HELP HOW OLD SHE IS EITHER!! AND WHO CARES IF YOUR 2ND SHIFT PERSON IS SICK!?? PEOPLE DO TEND TO GET SICK!! Why don't you relax and bend a little bit. People die and people get sick. You will NEVER be in control of that, no matter how high on the corporate ladder you become. Also, why not speak to YOUR boss and try to get a few (or even one) staff member(s) to be on-call every once in awhile in case something like this happens again? Just a thought.


sweet_lil_cannibal
Wrong, you have a right to be upset about the situation you were left with but I don't think you should have punished her for the fact that she needed time off for a funeral. It just doesn't seem like a good manageral decision.


jen5332003
Ask yourself how you would feel if you had to attend a visitation and funeral and your employer still wanted you to work. Is the only reason she is driving you crazy is she is young and lives at home? That shouldn't determine whether she is a good employee or not. I think it is wrong that you a punishing her for wanting to go to a funeral.


Spy Girl
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If the policy is that you only get time off for the funeral, then you did right. If there were extenuating circumstances (i.e. the funeral was out of town) then you may want to cut her some slack, but that's at your discretion.

Since you are also the person who makes the schedule, it is your decision as to whether or not she gets overtime. Just be sure that there are policies in place & that you are treating all your employees equally. Explain to the girl that if she needed to attend both services, she could have left her shift one day for an hour or two, rather than taking the entire day off. She was given the time off, it is not your responsibility to make sure she gets overtime to make up for that.


yars232c
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Your staffing problems arise out of mismanagement. I wasn't there, so I don't know what working relationships you have set up with your employees. I've worked at places where I can take off, and places I couldn't.

If your running a business for profit, then your employees must understand their part and commitment they made with you. You don't run a revolving door business. I am sure you have a drawer full of resumes like all other employers.

I just think they have to understand they are there to work, and have fun as a bonus, but they are there for the business to succeed not the other way around. In a people business with few employees, you have to have contigincy plans as part of your business model should you get stuck with staffing.

Do you manage, and are answerable to others, or own a contract where the employees work for you? If you continue to manage a business where the employees are representing your business and have no sense of professionalism, I wouldn't expect your business to survive. You couldn't claim to be the victim of your employees should it fail, you have to manage your business to succeed. It's a management issue.

If your hiring dependable people to be there when you need them let me know.


sam
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Depends on whose funeral it was. If it was a close friend or family there is no way she could have come to work and done the job any justice anyway. I have lost 4 family memebers this year and let me tell ya I couldn't read, pray, listen to anyone talk, I was in a fog. You're probably feeling a littl bad and that's why you asked the question. You can't change the past so don't beat yourself up.


lizannepret
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You were wrong. She is entitled to that off time. Yeah, she wasn't very considerate in doing that, but you handles the situation wrong. Now you just made her an enemy instead of a team player. Seeing that you have minimum stuff it is very important to keep everyone on the same side. What you should have done: told her that you really needed her because you can depend on her. That she need do be considerate in the future...and by the way..." Did you have a good rest?" Positive conditioning...not negative


bi_babe28f
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i think you need new employees


cookie_deluxe
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i would fire her ungrateful butt. don't tolerate that stuff. they will do it all the time. i think you did the right thing.


stephanieleighsc
well i wouldn't say she doesn't deserve it, but she shouldn't be mad she is the one who is taking the time out so she'll have to deal with the way things need to be scheduled


tazzz6413
sounds like you need another employee.


SWIFFER THE WONDER MUTT
Right.
If you have something personal going on ie a funeral then you can't really expect overtime.
But if the funeral was for someone that she would have rather been getting overtime for, then that's her choice.
You can't please everyone.


ginny3282
It would be hard to work a shift if someone dies in the family or if anyone dies you are close to...........Now if she missed to go to a family reunion or something like that ..........I would say yes she could of worked her shift but a funeral ................you are wrong


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