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smartyness | How do you stop a vegan from preaching at you? |
I have a few vegans in my circle, who insist on preaching about their beliefs and trying to convert me. I will never be a vegetarian, because of the way that they all come across as being so goddamned pushy, uninformed, and simple.
They even have the nerve to give my children books about veganism, full of unnessesary and mostly false details about farming. How do I make them understand that they can believe whatever they want to, but they dont always have to be trying to convert the world. |
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Simply_Wisdom
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Start preaching at them. About the healthiness of meat and meat products. Give their children books about meat. Let them feel the sting of thier own venom. I know the types. They are not going to shut up. OR you can find all the things they are doing that are not truly VEGAN, point out all the things they eat or use that are meat derived...that shuts them up pretty well. You'll find there are few true Vegans that actually exist in the world....they all starved to death... |
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Star Dust
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You could point out to them that the pointy teeth and eyes in front of our head make humans natural-born meat-eaters. |
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Sprinter
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Once when I was dating a vegan, she insisted on referring to the hamburger I was eating as a murdered cow. So I explained to her that her yogurt was half-dead fungus. She lost her appetite. |
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oblomov
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Throw putrid rotten meat in their houses. |
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atwork
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Take a big bite of steak in front of them, but don't make it a nice dainty bite, make sure you tear at it with your teeth and smack your lips. |
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theace0804
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Its unreal what some of these groups will do to push their agenda on you - and your children.
Unfortunetly, I don't have an answer for you - just steer clear of them.
Be proud to eat meat. Besides, if we weren't supposed to eat animals.. why are they made of meat to begin with? |
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IrishBoricua
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Man, just today, I was eating two slices of pizza at my company's lunchroom. There were two veggans talking about the wonders of their diet knowing full well that I could hear them. Then one of them said that us carnivores are arrogant. I told them that I love being an arrogant meat eater and then proceded to stand on top of their table and pooped on the hay they were eating. OK, the poop part is just joking, but I did tell them off.
Some vegetarians are just like religious freaks! However, I know some that don't preach. |
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sarch_uk
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I am a vegetarian and I am not goddamned pushy, uninformed or simple thank you very much!
I have not now, or ever, pushed my beliefs onto anybody so please do not generalise when you bad mouth people who are annoying you. That's like me saying that all Americans are obese, ignorant turds.....some are and some aren't.
As to your problem, I would politely say that I respect their views and that they are entitled to their beliefs but that they are not for me, and that I would appreciate it very much if they stopped trying to convert me and my family. You could also point out that your children will one day be old enough to make their own decisions as to what they eat, and when that time comes you will respect their choice.
If they continue to try to convert you then tell them that you no longer wish to have them around you as they cannot respect your beliefs.
Good Luck!
BTW a vegetarian is not a vegan. |
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Dough
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Tell them the lack of respect will result in there pain. |
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CeCe
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First of all no need to use the Lords name that way. Second of all tell them you own a darn cow farm or something. Then if that doesn't work tell them there is something called personal preference and to get over take care of themselves. |
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mikefiroved
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start giving beef brochures to their children. have barbeques every weekend.
or just go up to them and say "stay the f___ away from my kids or I will secretly replace your tofu with lard" |
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vixiixiv
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Just tell them "To each his own" and repeat it every time they start in a nice calm manner.. if they give you books, just give it back and say "no thanks, to each his own".. trust me been there and the repeating of that and in a calm voice almost apathetic works.. |
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philski333
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Hand Grenades and Rocket Launchers will do wonders to those parasites !!! |
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Elizabeth
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I'm assuming when you asked the question you didn't hope to get "throw some meat at them".
As a vegan I don't agree with preaching the subject, it doesn't help and it only puts people off.
eating meat in front of them won't help, nor will getting info from the meat society or what ever. and if you don't want to get into a long, long debate i suggest not using the "meat has brought us down from the trees" method. I don't know a single vegan (and I know a lot of vegans) that would see that as a reason. In fact it will only open the debate on your behalf and will make it easier for them to start a long conversation off it (it's not pushy when you start it is it? ;-)
as I see it you have 2 options:
1. talk to them about the issues they want to talk about. I'm not saying go vegan, but sit down one evening and discuss everything they want to discuss with you. if nothing else at lease they will feel they got a good chance at explaining whatever they wanted to explain and it will make them less inclined to bring it up every time you see them.
2. Don't talk to them. if you're not the person for researching and thinking about the issues, next time you see one of them (works better one on one) sit quietly and explain that they chose for them and for their family what they felt was right, and you're doing the same for yours. that it's getting to the point where you're really had it, to the point where to actually went to yahoo answers and posted a question!
explain (in a calm, quite voice) how it's not OK to address your children with messages that you don't approve of, and that they've crossed a line they shouldn't have.
Say you want to resolve this issue quietly and still stay friends, and that their constant bringing the subject up (i wouldn't use the word "preaching") is only pushing you away from being open to the idea. Explain that if the situation was less threatening, you were probably more interested in the way of life, but at the moment you're afraid of bringing up anything because it turns into a 4 hour debate.
speak from your heart. say what you feel. let them say what they feel. expect things like "but it's not your choice! animals are dying!" and so on. because that's how they see it. in their eyes animals are dying, and if they can only get you to cut down on meat, less animals will die.
after either of these steps (step 2 can come after step 1 if the nagging didn't stop) i will recommend the "to each his own" method explained above. possibly with the addition of "we've been through this Bill, I don't have anything else to say and I've heard what you had to say, we just don't agree". |
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₪ڠYiffniff ڠ₪
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Preach back to them about how good meat is! |
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GUNSLINGER
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say thanks but no thanks that you are not interested, and if they persist fine a new circle.. |
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bstoneseattle
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tell them it bothers you..and let them know that if they insist on being pushy that you will put a raw steak on their porch every time they try to push it to let them know how it feels...insist on having them go deer hunting and then say i was just showing you how it feels to have my beliefs pushed on you..let them know you are not and i mean not gonna change and that is that ...let them know that your friendship means a lot to you but the constant pushy-ness is hindering our hangout sessions..or whatever... |
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j-e-s-u-s and pals
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throw a steak at 'em. cheese in the hair works just as well |
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mary
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As I vegan, I'm going to start by saying that I am insulted beyond words at the ignorance so many of you are showing.
For starters, you simply CANNOT say that all vegans are arrogant!! That would be no better than me saying all blondes are stupid, all jocks are players, all blacks are criminals, all arabs are terrorists, all policemen are racist, etc, etc. It's just not true! You can't say that every vegan is pushy just because the few you've encountered are. The trouble is that people tend to remember their bad experiences over their negative ones. I'd be willing to bet that you have a number of acquaintences who have either never told you they are vegetarain or who you have forgotten are vegetarians because they choose to not psuh their beliefs on you.
As for vegetarians being uninformed, I can assure you that most of them are anything but! Like it or not, farm animals are not raised under ideal conditions. Don't believe me? Go visit a slaughterhouse sometime!
I'll assure you that I do not believe everything I read on animal rights websites. If something seems suspicious to me, I do research! I check the page's sources and then I'll do some independent research of my own. Have you ever even read an agriculture journal? The message is clear in the majority of articles: Minimize costs to maximize profits. How to do that? Provide minimal space and pump them full of hormones! Don't believe me? Go look it up yourself. Your local public library should have some journals.
I agree that it is not your friends place to try and influence you or your children to convert to veganism. I understand where they are coming from at the same time, however. Try putting yourself in their shoes: Think of an issue which you are in strong moral opposition to. Abortion, for example (I dont know or care where your position on choice is). If you are against abortion and you knew someone who was pregnant and planning on having one, would you not try and convince her otherwise? Imagine if every woman you met was having unprotected sex with the plan of using abortion as a form of birth control? Wouldn't you be upset? Try explaining to them why they need to be more responsible? It is definitely analagous to what your friends are feeling.
How to make them stop? If you're unwilling to convert to vegetarian or veganism, just sit down with them and explain why you feel the way you do. Tell them that you think it is admirable of them to commit their lives to preventing animal cruelty and standing up for what they believe is right, but that you disagree. Let them know you understand and respect their beliefs, but do not share them. Telling them that you would be open to experimenting with some vegetarian foods, even though you will never be able to exclude meat entirely, would probably make them happy as well. |
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jane_60411
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Set boundaries.
tell them you appreciate their concern, and respect their beliefs but you wish they would respect yours.
Sometimes vegans can be a bit over the edge and right wing... |
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shycat
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You hunt vamps with a cross and vegans with meat.
Eat it very slowly and amused in front of them.
Perhaps you might show them pictures of some vegans looking like Jesus Christ hanging at the cross.
At least you could convince your children this way. |
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gagger
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VEGANS CAN BE EXTREMELY ARROGANT IN THEIR BELIEFS YOU CAN NOT STOP THEIR PREACHING.WHEN THEY GIVE YOUR CHILDREN BOOKS ON THEIR BELIEFS GIVE THEIR CHILDREN A BUTCHERS CHART ON CUTS OF BEEF WHEN THEY START THEIR PREACHING BREAK OUT A HAMBURGER AND CHOW DOWN THE MORE THEY PREACH ABOUT BEING A VEGAN YOU CAN PREACH THE JOYS OF EATING MEAT (UM MM YUMMY)OR WHEN EVER THEY COME TO TOUR HOME LEAVE OUT A PIECE OF MEAT AND IF ALL ELTS FAILS DON'T ASSOCIATE WITH THEN ANYMORE YOUR PROBABLY BETTER OFF WITHOUT THEM AND THIER ONE SIDED VIEWS |
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NONAME
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Good question. I've found a lot of weak minded vegans/vegetarians crack when they smell bacon being cooked.
Go to the red meat society's web site and download some factual info about how red meat led to humans coming out of the trees and developing bigger brains.
Give your kids info on the importance of a well balanced diet.
Tell your kids that vegetarians fart a lot because of all the beans and nuts they eat to keep their protein levels up (that worked on me when I was a kid).
If they continue to harass your kids then your going to have to firmly tell them that if they don't stop harassing your kids they'll find they have a law suit on their hands. |
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koresh419
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Tell them that you don't agree with them and ask them respectfully to stop preaching. Tell them they are not superior to anyone, and that their constant holier-than-thou, derogatory approach is demeaning and reflects poorly on their own character.
If that doesn't work, pick up some pig's blood from the butcher and soak 'em. |
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Dinner
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It seems that all the crazy people want every one to convert to what they do, no matter what it is. I would suggest just trying to avoid these people, and/or tell them nicely that you don't agree, if that doesn't work....using a little anger in your voice couldn't hurt to get your message across. |
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