
isabow27
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The first pies, called "coffins" or "coffyns" were savory meat pies with the crusts or pastry being tall, straight-sided with sealed-on floors and lids. Open-crust pastry (not tops or lids) were known as "traps." These pies held assorted meats and sauce components and were baked more like a modern casserole with no pan (the crust itself was the pan, its pastry tough and inedible). The purpose of a pastry shell was mainly to serve as a storage container and serving vessel, and these are often too hard to actually eat. A small pie was known as a tartlet and a tart was a large, shallow open pie (this is still the definition in England). Since pastry was a staple ingredient in medieval menus, pastry making was taken for granted by the majority of early cookbooks, and recipes are not usually included. It wasn't until the 16th century that cookbooks with pastry ingredients began appearing. Historian believe this was because cookbooks started appearing for the general household and not just for professional cooks.
Historians have recorded that the roots of pie can loosely be traced back to the ancient Egyptians. The bakers to the pharaohs incorporated nuts, honey, and fruits in bread dough, a primitive form of pastry. Drawings of this can be found etched on the tomb walls of Ramses II, located in the Valley of the Kings. King Ramses II was the third pharoh in the nineteenth dynasty. He ruled from 1304 to 1237 B.C. After years of the tombe being looted and weathered, great amounts of effort are in progress with the hope of returning the tomb to a somewhat presentable stage.
Historians believe that the Greeks actually originated pie pastry. The pies during this period were made by a flour-water paste wrapped around meat; this served to cook the meat and seal in the juices.
The Romans, sampling the delicacy, carried home recipes for making it (a prize of victory when they conquered Greece). The wealthy and educated Romans used various types of meat in every course of the meal, including the dessert course (secundae mensea). According to historical records, oysters, mussels, lampreys, and other meats and fish were normal in Roman puddings. It is thought that the puddings were a lot like pies.. |
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cdf-rom
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Many cultures have independently invented some form of filled bread or pastry. The Chinese invented the egg roll, the Jews invented the blintz, the Poles have pierogi, the Italians have many varieties of filled pasta, and calzone as well.
They can be boiled, baked or fried. They can be filled with almost anything: meat, vegetables, starch, fruits, cheese, sauces, puddings, or combinations of the above.
They are all peasant food, a way of using up leftovers or the less-desirable foods. The wealthy and powerful didn't need to save leftovers or restrict themselves; except in times of outright famine, they could have anything they wanted.
So it was left up to the poor people to invent what we thing of as national cuisine today: soups, sausage, filled breads, etc. They are all ways of using up leftovers, of making do without some ingredient, of substituing something for something else when it was unavailable or out of season, or too expensive.
So, no one person invented pie. It was independently discovered and re-discovered (or, invented, if you like) many times, in many places around the world.
[If you are thinking about the mathematical value, pi, look it up on Wikipedia.] |
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coreander
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The Romans...they used to throw pies at people in the Collesium, which is where the phrase 'A Pie in your Eye' comes from. |
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jimjim421
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Al Gore invented pie...just before he invented the internet.
Pie is necessary in figuring out an Al Gore-ithm |
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Mr. Curious
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Ironically it was invented by a man named Jerry Pie. |
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Me, myself and I
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I think the Europeans, but I'm not sure when. Probably in the Middle Ages. |
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mozzy
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which pie (food or 3.14)??? |
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bubi
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florence nightingale invented the math one
but the food i have no clue |
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lucky star
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depends on what pie |
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carsons
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betsy ross ! ??? OR WAS THAT THE FLAG OR DID IT HAVE A NEEDLE AND THREAD INVOLVED |
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Kristine
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What kind of pie?
Florence Nightingale invented the Pie chart (math) oh i meant "PI" =)
there are also different kinds of pies (the edible ones) invented by different persons.. Too many names to mentioN! |
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Courtney
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I don't know. But I thank the Lord for them everyday!;)...hehe...
*to the person above*: 3.14 is "pi". |
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hotangel
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what kind of pie if your talkin bout math this person i forget their name but if your thinkin bout food pie someone in the middleages |
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