Fantasy
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More than likely it is legal. There are quite a few laws in apartments (especially complexes) concerning barbecue grills and pits, they pose a fire hazard. |
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true blue
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You need to read the bilaws, every owner is given a copy at closing. In short, if it's in there they can. You sign them and agree to abide by them, whatever the rules may be. |
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Kendra J
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Yes, this has become an issue recently with insurance because of the fire hazard. Some people are careless with lighter fluid and catching wood on fire and then burning down entire complexes because of this. |
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thestara
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I believe it's a fire code issue. |
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apreston60
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It really depends on the bylaws in your CCR documents and what association rules your homeowner association has, I would read through those documents to see where you stand. Some Condominium associations are run like a dictatorship that makes up subjective rules as they go along, also ask to see the written rule for your self. |
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answerman
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Unfotunately, I beleive the answer will be yes. I live in PA, and my condo association is the same way. 1st floor can have grills and BBQ's, but the 2nd floor units are not permitted to have them. |
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rangerbaldwin
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If they have to enforce a fire code, then they do. If they risk losing their insurance/your insurance that's not a good thing and obviously telling the ins. co. they didn't know better was not good enough. With the law, ignorance counts for nothing. Better safe than sorry.
I live in Maryland, so different law, but when I had an apartment, the closest a BBQ grill could be to the building was 50 ft. Also some condos around here have BBQ areas with those crummy grills pre-set up. |
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Nancy Kay
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Yes they can, if it is needed to obtain the requisite property and liability insurance for the owners and the association. The association's absolute duty to provide and maintain that insurance coverage outweighs your previously unrestricted right to use your balcony space any way you wish (or as permitted by the previously existing rules). |
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wizjp
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Owner's association's have a lot of leeway depending on the language of the specific terms of the agreement. Look it over for any language that indicates they have the right to enforce changes to keep your property safe and insurable. |
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blb
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I used to do marketing for large commerical account which means finding large businesses insurance. There are fewer insurance companies out there that want to insure residential type of properties because of all of the claims. One of the big claims is fire from grills. People leave them on and don't worry about them. With every association I wrote, one of the rules that the condo association had to enforce was no grills on the balconies or patios. Usually they have a distance from the building before grilling is allowed. It is an inconvenience for you but it is the difference between getting insurance for the building or going without. |
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Sue F
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Yes, the condo association has a right to govern what you can and cannot put anywhere on your premises. The condos can be refused insurance coverage if the occupants are using any fire increasing items on their property.
If the association is refused insurance coverage, the buildings have to be evacuated. This is separate insurance from what you have to carry for coverage of your own belongings.
When you use a BBQ pit, it is only common sense that you should not be using it on a balcony and that it would be a fire hazard. |
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Allen L
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I am afraid they can tell you to remove the barbecue from your balconies
In today's age of liability -and senseless people (not you) company's have to cover their butts
Even though you have lived there before this rule came into effect -they can and will make this happen
Hopefully they will set-up a barbecue area for occupants downstairs and outside |
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mikem33607
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in most municipalities, it is against the law to have a charcoal or propane grill on the porch or balcony of a multi-unit dwelling (electric grills are legal) |
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Matt1331
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Well you could always leave the BBQ pits and just not buy insurance...which wouldn't be a great idea.
There may be local ordinance / law that is requiring this and not insurance. If it is actually an insurance company that is forcing the removal of the BBQ pits just make sure the people in charge at the association are getting quotes from multiple companies and maybe one of the companies that quotes won't force the removal of the pits, but that's doubtful...especially in Louisiana where I'm sure the insurance market isn't very soft you might not have a lot of options. |
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bubuane2000
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They sure can, trust me I am going through the same thing right now, and mine is a foreman electric grill. Can you believe.
If the insurance company will not insure you if the place burns down, than I think you should obey!
PS. I even received a bill for a box that I left outside my entrance door for 4 days. I was suppose to bring it to the dumpster and break it down. 100$ the bill was sent with a picture of my door showing the unit number with the box. It's ridiculous. Just make sure you let them know when you are unhappy about something! |
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mbrcatz
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Well, what happens is that the association membership has to choose between 1. being able to insure the building or 2. changing the bylaws to disallow BBQ pits. I dare say, mostly everyone would rather eliminate the BBQ pits than NOT INSURE THE BUILDING. So, when this comes up to vote, the bylaws will be changed, and you'll have to move the pit.
Ah, the glories of condo ownership. |
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Charles Dexter Ward
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Yes, because grills on balconies pose a fire hazard. Your condo wouldn't be able to get coverage if they allowed tenants to bbq on the balcony.
I know it sucks but that's how it is. I hate our Home Owners Association. |
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jojo
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yes only if it's not propane been there done that those bastads!!! |
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