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Bounded | Is It Possible To Provide Free Healthcare Insurance to Everyone? |
I would really like to know how it can be done. I am sitting behind this computer wondering how this can be established, but I really can't come up with any ideas to do it without including a budget for the program. Can we do anything related to Social Security? where some money is pulled out of one's paycheck.... |
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mbrcatz
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It can't be done. Several reasons.
Nothing is EVER free. The taxpayers always pay for it. Governments don't have a magic source of free income. The burden is always on the backs of the working class. Don't be shortsighted and assume that taxing corporations means that the working class doesn't foot the bill. Think about where CORPORATIONS get their money. They'll just put in price hikes, and Joe Average who buys the end product will end up paying for it - again.
Even the countries with "free health care" like Canada and the UK, don't provide it for EVERYONE. It's ONLY for their subjects/citizens. Half the uninsured people here in the US are here ILLEGALLY. No matter WHICH country with "free" health care they would go to, THEY wouldn't be covered.
The ONLY place where someone can get "free" care, is where the doctors' aren't paid - they volunteer for a year. You want to take on $250,000 of student loans, and go work for free? Not many people are really "into" that.
And PLEASE don't think about putting anything else on Social Security. It was never intended to be a sole source of income for people for 25 and 30 years, and even more. But that's what it's turned into, and it's on the verge of imploding. 30 years ago there were 8 workers supporting every recepient, now there are 3, and soon it's going to be 2. You don't WANT to pay those social security taxes. Trust me, you won't be able to afford to eat if you do - only the people RECEIVING benefits will have any money. |
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mark32541
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Well nothing is free, someone has to pay for it.
Medicare cost $5,000 per person per year.
Times 300 million people, thats 1.5 trillion a year.
The 2006 federal Budget was only 2.4 trillion.
The US Government currently spends about 580 billion a year on medicial care ( nedicaid, medicare, VA )
To raise the additional 920 billion a year.
We would need $3,066 dollars from every person in the US in addition to what people currently pay.
Or if you look at individual and corporate tax's to pay for it,
They would have to be increased 69% to raise the additional 920 billion dollars each year. |
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sarge927
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It's not possible because the money has to come from somewhere. One thing to bear in mind is almost everyone who has health care already has a premium deducted from every pay check. It's not the most effective system because a lot of children who deserve health care coverage don't get it, but it could be a heck of a lot worse.
Could the Federal Government take over the healthcare system and make it a law that everyone is entitled to free health care? Sure they could. Unfortunately, that would cause more problems than it would solve. For starters, our taxes would double (possibly triple), and there would be a lot of people out there that CAN work but refuse to who would get free health care -- how is that fair? Ditto that for illegal aliens -- they would also get free health care because hospitals are required by law to treat people who are ill or injured, and how is that fair to American citizens? Secondly, the Federal Government has shown that the only thing it is really good at is miring everything in bureaocracy, so imagine the red tape you would have to go through just to get a second opinion or to see a specialist. Finally, once the Federal Government takes over a program like that, there's no turning back. If we don't like the system they come up with that's too bad -- we're stuck with it unless we want to go to Canada or Mexico or overseas for our health care.
If you want to know what government socialized medicine is really like, talk to the folks in Canada. You'll be surprised. Can you imagine having to wait 6-8 weeks for an MRI? That's the current wait time at Windsor Memorial Hospital, and their MRI unit runs 24/7, so you may have to come in at 3:00 in the morning on a weekday. How about asking a doctor for a preventive exam like a colonoscopy and being told you can't have one unless you're showing symptoms of a problem? Uh, excuse me, but if you have colon cancer and you start showing visible symptoms, your cancer is already in the terminal phase (READ: You're going to die no matter what the doctors do). It's amazing to see how many Canadians come into the U.S. to get their prescriptions filled or to see a doctor, and they have to pay for that out of their own pockets -- great system, huh? |
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aaron p
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You said it yourself, Social Security money is pulled out of your check. Plus it's inefficient and insufficient. That ain't free. If you want to pay for healthcare by having money pulled out of your pay check, set up a bank draft with a good health insurance company. |
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mac
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I know other countries are on board with this, but their QUALITY of healthcare is third world at best--I just spoke with a woman who's mother-in-law lives in England--she waited 18 months to get an appointment with a hearing specialist to be fitted for a hearing aid. Do you really think Americans will be able to sustain life as we know it with healthcare that will be reversed back 20-30 years? If you have cancer, do you want to wait 6-9 months to start treatment?
Everyone in our medical field has school loans close to and over $100,000 in this country. Do you think people will go into the medical field if their pay will be subsidized by the government and they will not be even able to pay off their loans?
Healthcare in our country should be given to CITIZENS only--that is where the problem lies---every illegal alien that steps foot on American soil is given free healthcare--even the detainees in Cuba at Guantanamo bay-they have free healthcare.
Sorry for the analogy but I see illegal aliens as cockroaches--once they are here- they stay until they suck the life out of you.........that is what they are doing to this country. |
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