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moonbeam | Urgent help needed. Insurance claims? |
A shop manager has been has asked by her employer to lie in a letter for an insurance claim.
-The claim is for items that were shoplifted, while the manager was not present, which is exactly what she stated in the police report.
-If she was not present the Insurance company will pay the claim, now the employesr asks that she write to the insurance company saying she was present.
Help: what are the technicalities and implications if she writes such letter?
(she risks losing her job if she does not cooperate)
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PS I meant the insurance will NOT pay the claim if the manager was not present. |
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eriverpipe
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Weigh it up... possible conviction for insurance fraud (not appealable) against potnetial for losing job on grounds which would never stand up in tribunal (and therefore definitely appealable). Best for her, i suggest, is if she arranges a meeting with the employer, with another person present, and states her unwillingness to change the information she gave to the police. |
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Tammi B
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That would constitute insurance fraud, I believe. Of which the friend, if it is found out, could be an accessory to. Not knowing what state you are in, I do not know what the penalties would be. I do know that I would not do that for my employer, and we have been friends for years. If she loses her job over refusal to write a letter, then I would file a whistleblower-type suit against her.
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mrsclaura
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if she is being asked to go against what she has said in a police report which is a legal document she could be liable to procecution.
she needs to weigh up the pros and cons - lose her job or get a criminal record??? i know what i'd do. |
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Paul The Rock Ape
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That would constitute insurance fraud. She should remind her employer of that and also of the penalties if found guilty (the penalties would apply to her AND the employer, if proven). She should also remind them that she has already given the police a statement regarding her absence.
As for losing her job - under UK law, the only way that she could be legally dismissed is if she DID lie in such a letter. If they were to dismiss her for NOT lying, she would have a substantial claim for unfair dismissal. |
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Shambles
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Don't see how she would lose her job. She could claim unfair dismissal for refusing to commit an illegal act. Her boss would not have a leg to stand on. |
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welcome news
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If the insurance company ask for a copy of the police report and spot the change of story then the employee is going to be in deep trouble.
I suggest that she sticks to her story and if she loses her job sues for constructive dismissal (check she qualifies re length/ hours of job). The manager probably knows that this is likely so I suspect that this is a 'try-on'. |
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Queen B
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thats insurance fraud and its a felony. does she like the look of stripes? Cause she could be wearing them if she gets caught. she needs to go over the managers head to a higher up and let them know what shes being asked to do. no job is worth jail |
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acermill
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She should start looking for other employment immediate, while refusing to be a part of insurance fraud. There is no reason for your friend to take the risk of getting caught up in this scam just to hold this job.
She should also document as well as she can the conversations and directions from this employer. If she cannot find other employment, this will be of value in collecting unemployment compensation. |
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TedEx
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This is ins fraud, and when it comes to ins fraud, ins co's will prosecute EVERYBODY involved, and their attitude is "show no mercy!" Somebody must want to go to jail real bad. |
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countryguyhfc
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lying to the insurance company would constitute insurance fraud. The employer can not legally fire someone for telling the truth and if they did she could sue them. So have her document everything she does. Since she already filed a polilce report stating she was not present I don't see how she can refute that now. |
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alan v
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She has already told the police that she was not present, the insurance company will have a copy of the police report, if she states that she was there when she told the police that she wasn't there the insurance company are likely to prosecute her for fraud, don't do it, it's not worth it.
If she loses her job she can take the company to court for unfair dismissal then the whole truth will come out and the company will face prosecution for fraud |
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