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kelleygaither2000 | Are we headed for a new Great Depression? |
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While robe stated below that democrats are the reason for this problem I would like to point out that we have had a republican in office for 8 years, prior to that, economy was doing great thanks to Clinton and then before that we had a republican. Who was that oh yeah Bush Sr.
Who was that before him hmmm, oh yeah another republican and how was the economy doing then?
Fannie and Freddie was due to them having to much political influence. Do you think in the time of Clinton they did all that, or before that when republicans were sitting pretty in the white house.
To answer your original statement we could head into a depression if we dont stop scaring our citizens. We have to save money by buying less gas on a daily base. Buy exactly what you need not one penny more. Show these future investors that we dont need there demands. Save by not using your mac card and use cash instead, show the banks that we will not allow them to charge insane 22% interests to stores to use our credit cards etc.
Robe stated:
No. We're headed for a time of correcting excesses that were developed by do-nothing Democrats allowing Freddie and Fannie to make private profits with public money, all the while vigorously encouraging that sub-prime loans be made so people "entitled" to own their homes could get homes, even though they had no ability to pay for them. I can't control what they've done to us so far, but I can vote them OUT. And that is exactly what I intend to do, because the subprime - a very bad idea - is the origin of all of the financial problems ailing the markets at present. |
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borgmstr
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BlaQice is closer to the truth. The Fed is currently desperately trying to prevent a depression. Much of this is a result of "Voodoo Economics" promoted by Republican fat cats promoting big business. Thanks Ronnie!
(BTW the Great Depression is what lead to the oster of the Republican party.)
We will probably not have a steep, heavy, pervasive financial downturn, but do prepare for a severe recession. This extension largely due to many people making emotional decisions.
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trombass08
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It's getting pretty bad but I don't think it will get that bad. It's a matter of people being smart with finances. And for the past 10 years, the general public hasn't been and mortgage companies have been fueling the fire. I doubt this is the end but I also doubt that a second great depression is the bottom. |
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mark0381_FINA4242
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That's a great question! It sure seems like many of the things that happened prior to the stock market crash in 1929 are happening today. However, one thing is different this time, the federal government has temporarily gone away from laissez faire (leaving the market alone to fix itself) in the market place in order to make sure that one company's collapse doesn't cause a world-wide economic crisis.
The U.S. Fed under Alan Greenspan actually did this same thing in the late 1980s when the U.S. economy went into a recession. In fact, it has been argued that the moves that Greenspan made actually saved the U.S. economy from another depression. The government today is hoping that their intervention will do the same thing. Their argument is that if banks like Fannie Mae, Freddie Mac, AIG, etc. go under, then there will be a world-wide economic crisis because globalization has intertwined the world's financial markets.
In my opinion, these moves, as well as the passage of time, will aleviate the crisis and possibly cut the present "recession" short. |
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thomas p
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No, we are not headed for a Great Depression. Sadly, the media would lead a normal person to that conclusion. It is related to their election agenda. Bernanke and especially Mr. Paulson, both, are making reasonable apolitical decisions to navigate through the housing crisis and its fallout. The Dem. congress is actually having a hearing with Bernanke and Paulson to testify, again, before them. It is a sideshow that is designed offer congressional politicians an opportunity to give political speeches. |
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pagodaboy2001
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This is normal, basic economics. We go through cycles of highs and lows as the market tries to find the equilibrium.
We are not even in a recession. Growth has slowed (but still growing), and the market doesn't look the best but it'll bounce back.
A little history lesson. Since the Great Depression many safe guards are put in place to prevent it from happening again, ie regulations and requirements. |
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R K
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Egghead economists say no, but.............
Deflation (cousin to depression) has already started in stock market, commodities and housing bubbles. Washington will probably try to print their way out of this mess (look at the bailouts), and if it is done enough, we will not have a deflationary depression, it will be a hyperinflationary depression. The way I figure it, this will depend on where the richest people have their wealth parked. If it is outside of the dollar, hyperinflationary. If it is in dollars, deflationary- the answer depends on what will benefit them the most. (Of course this information is hidden from the little people.) Do not forget that the rich get their wealth from...well, you and me. |
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robe
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No. We're headed for a time of correcting excesses that were developed by do-nothing Democrats allowing Freddie and Fannie to make private profits with public money, all the while vigorously encouraging that sub-prime loans be made so people "entitled" to own their homes could get homes, even though they had no ability to pay for them. I can't control what they've done to us so far, but I can vote them OUT. And that is exactly what I intend to do, because the subprime - a very bad idea - is the origin of all of the financial problems ailing the markets at present. |
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BlaQice
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We're already there... we just don't know it as a country because our government hides it well. Don't believe me? Go buy a one lemon, or a gallon of milk, and compare the percentage of your income to what it would have cost you in 1987 or 1930. The key is to factor in how much you pay in taxes because of tooooooo much government vs the percentage they paid then. Don't expect soup lines. But, google "food bank" and call one anywhere in the country and ask them how crowed they get.
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/05/27/national/main4127748.shtml?source=related_story
Now, when other countries realize it and stop lending us money... then we'll feel it even more when a hot dog maycost you $25 because our currency will be so debased...
I know people will laugh. Just like they did when they laughed on this very board when I was shorting homebuilders and buying gold at $230 a couple years ago and the dollar was through the roof.
Or, ask the government to let you see M3 (the true money supply) they keep classified now, so you can calculate the real GDP, CPI and employment rate...
People keep saying, this is a normal cycle... etc
When evevry economist will tell you "I've never seen this in 35.. 40... 50 years)
Show me when in HISTORY we ever had a 500 trillion dollar debt even on a nominal basis while being a "service economy" because we no longer make anything in America?
The only response I'll get is a click on the thumbs down.
Meanwhile I'm still shorter than a midget in my stock account
where I made like 240% in two months and half my portfolios in the Perth mint gold averaging 38% a year.
We keep saying, that can't happen here... not in America. Or, we're too musy pointing fingers blaming others instead of addressing the challenges we face.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N6V5ym9kx_8 |
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Nancy S
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Last week I would have said no.....Today, I can only say "I hope not" It looks like the Federal Reserve is reacting to the crisis appropriately. But we are in for a long run of bad times. |
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The United States House Committee on Financial Services (or House Banking Committee) oversees the entire financial services industry, including the securities, insurance, banking, and housing industries. The Committee also oversees the work of the Federal Reserve, the United States Department of the Treasury, the U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission, and other financial services regulators. It is chaired by Barney Frank (D-MA) . |
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