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fakechat6 | Can being assigned while doing a call vertical option spread make you more money than just a regular spread.? |
Generally speaking I hear on the boards a fear of being assigned when you play options. When I analyzed my vertical spread I came to the conclusion it might be a good thing but wasn't sure if my math was so I am asking for a check on it.
Lets say your assigned a 2 days early because the spread on the bid ask was a little out of whack and it was better for the owner to exercise the option inseat of selling it back. I have a call vertical spread where I went long the 45 and sold short the 48. The Short call was assigned to me and I am now -100 short stock at 48 basis and still have my 45 call. (for simplicity ill ignore the debit I paid to do the trade). Assume the underlying stock is at 50. I figure if I end the trade now I lost $200 on the 48/50 -100 short and made $500 on the 45 call for profit of $300. Thats the max I could have made on the trade if I had sold the vertical. If the underlying stock goes up or down the next 2 days I beleive I keep my $300 gain because the long and short -100 just move together. However if the underlying stock drops down I also am garunteed at least $300 but I think i could even get more.
when I drop below the 45 call strike price the -100 short is not offset anymore buy losing money in the long call. Say the underlying drops down to 40 because a oil rig blew up or something. When I sell my long call I would get nothing because it is below 45 but my -100 short is now worth $800 because my basis in the short -100 is 48. So Basically a vertical call spread with a max profit of $300 can be worth much more because of assignment. I realize you have to pay interest and margin issues but is the basic math correct that I presented here, being assigned can be a good thing? |
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Can you make your questions simple? |
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mrwizard9090
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first of all, if you fear being assigned, you should not have bought/sold the option. fear being the operative word.
i am not going to check your math, but most folks go into spreads to guarantee some kind of return. you are now exposed to a possible loss, since half of your spread is gone. since teh reason you did the spread is now gone, i would take the money and run. |
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zman492
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<<<Can being assigned while doing a call vertical option spread make you more money than just a regular spread.?>>>
Yes. Your example demonstrates that accurately.
<<<I realize you have to pay interest and margin issues but is the basic math correct that I presented here, being assigned can be a good thing?>>>
Yes your basic math is correct, although some of your wording is questionable. (A short position of 100 shares at $40 per share is "worth" $4,000. The $800 figure is your unrealized profit, not the value of the position.)
Unless there is a dividend payment involved, being assigned a call option early should always be considered a good thing.
You should NOT have to pay any interest in this situation. A professional trader would expect to be paid interest on the additional cash in his account from short sales. Option pricing models assume you will be paid interest following a short sale. I understand that a lot of brokers will not pay interest on money received from a short sale in small retail accounts, which is bad enough, but if they try to charge you interest it is time to change brokers. |
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