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michael m | Do you think the stock market can increase forever? |
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Ted
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Not necessarily. If one experiences a recession or outright depression as in 1929, then the stock market will fall sharply or all together. |
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William H
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Well I asked a question which I did not get a sufficent answer is how does it work. In other words what exactly drives the market up. Investors buying stock do of course. but say the market has a total value of 10 trillion and 1 trillion comes into the market does that mean the market goes up 10 percent. Thats what I need to know if I am going to answer this question correctly.
Why because you need to know what is the amount of potentiial so that means how much assets does America have 120 trillion that shows a limiting factor. Also how much do foriegn Countries that invest in USA have. All this is information not given to us because we are to be keep stupid with the knowledge that over time it goes up 10 percent a year.
I mean If you take that money supply is constant and never grows and that the Market outpaces inflation then by logic alone the darn answer is no no no it cannot go up forever. But we have things like new Limited Resources ie Gold or Oil or Renewable Resources like food. So that the money or resources we have right now is not just stagnet it can change. But I dont know exactly how that works because money supply or countries true wealth is not released to me. If you ask me all the top ten percent of Richest countries are getting poorer through trade with poorer countries called trade deficits. We are not to know this because we are to brutal and greedy But I think all the rich countries are losing wealth and some of the poorer ones are gaining it. Once Again this info is not being explained like we are a bunch of greedy children who dont deserve to know because we will over react or act wrongly.
So if we just believe in something like Money or Money backed by Gold answer is no because thats limited. But if you back it by say life food and stuff that we can keep making more of something renewable then it can grow untill we go extinct or the earth dies or the sun supernovas. thats my answer |
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chunupyare
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this market is governed by two laws of greed and fear.
the market can not promise to always move up however a long term investor hardly loose money.
and the other person was right - do not put your money in the market unless u r sure of what u r doing. |
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cork
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no. up and down.
nature of the market..
profits also. |
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John C
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Thanks to inflation, you can expect that long-term, the stock market as a whole will go up in value. Perhaps this is not relative value, but certainly by just the dollar figures, yes the stock market will continue to go up indefinitely.
There will be corrections and crashes, though. From a short term perspective, you don't know what the market will do from year to year. |
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Steve
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Yes the stock market will go up forever. The reason; the stock market is a measure of human behavior. In the short term, there are always going to be ups and downs. The reason for that are the two human behavior motivators, fear and greed. In the long term, it is human nature to push forward and move ahead.
If you look back at the history of man you will see this. When the Roman empire fell, it was eventually rebuilt. When Europe was destroyed during WWII it was rebuilt bigger and better, etc, etc.
When someone invents a widget, someone else comes along and builds one that is better. When the widget is obselete, someone invents an alternative. Think of the evolution of a car or a cell phone. Also think about the evolution of the market itself. How many railroad stocks are there today compared to the early 1900's? The stock market is Darwinism at work; survival of the fittest and evolution. |
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agropelter
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historically its like 12% a year I think
for the past 70 years or whatever
sometimes down 50%
sometimes up 100%
averages to about 12% though
wars tend to increase it
banks failing and low confidence in the gov tend to make it go down |
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ll_solcorp
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Do yourself a favor. Don't invest until you understand a little more about the stock market.
It doesn't just go up and up. There are substantial downturns taht occur from time to time. The DOW hit 10,000 in the year 2000 and lost nearly a third of its value that same year. It didn't get back over 10000 until just last year, (I think)...
The overbearing trend is for gradual growth of the DOW and other stock markets due to the constant increases of population, along with the effects of even moderate inflation.
Another upward pressure for the stock markets is the fact that computers and telecommunications advances have increased our productivity tenfold. (we produce more with less money and resources spent...) |
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sidekick
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it never has. |
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vinson6316
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in the long run yes.....take any market, mark it over a long period of say about 20 years....because of growth, inflation etc.....the market has always had a positive growth, and it even out performs the bonds market.....so yes the stock market can increase forever, which is why the indicator of a market's value is not absolute but an index.
an index starting at 100 and growing by 10 for a year is the same as an index at 10000 and growing at 1000 for the same year...its both 10% growth...
even if everything were to remain equal, due to inflation every company's share price is due to rise and thus affecting the entire markets growth as well...
take a hawker who sells 100 bowls of soup for $2 each, the simplified value of his business is $200 per day, assume 10 years later, he still sells 100 bowls at $3, the value of his business would now be $300....if inflation of all products were to be equal, the hawkers quality of life would not have increased but yet the value of his business would have |
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Ubiquity
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If the makret had $10 trillion and someone invested another $1 trillion, the market would go up. Supposingnobody else antered or exited the market (on a macro level), the market would increase close to 10%. Ofcourse, that may not be a true reflection of market value (i.e. the firms underlying the market may not haveany better profit prospects, ratehr it went up because of supply and demand.
The market is all about potential. And if people did not believe the marekt could go up sustainably over the long run, they would not likely invest (especially in retirement accounts which are generally long term arrangements).
Is there an upward limiton U.S. markets? perhaps, but these days, the walls are being torn down between nations (at least in terms oftheir capital markets), as such, the question is, can the worldtop out? Perhaps, there is some theoretical number, but who knows that it is or howfar away it is.
Better questions are can the market susainably outperform wages, GDP, inflation, commodity prices, etc. |
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Frank Castle
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No. (Eventually the Sun will become a Supernova) |
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