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fastdrver27 | I am thinking about taking a loan from my 401K, how bad is it? |
I have over 6k in my 401k right now and I want to take out a loan to do some things around my house (pay property taxes) and things like that. How bad is it to do this? |
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Pantera Rosa
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If you need a loan to pay taxes or do things around the house, then there is no better place to get a loan than your 401K account.
The deal is that it is YOUR money in the account so therefore you are taking out a loan from YOURSELF.
In addition, when you make monthly payments from your pay check, all the payment toward principal AND interest you are paying back to YOURSELF. It's the best deal around. |
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Twinkie Thief
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you have to determine if the taxes on the 401k and the penalties are worth doing that....i will give you an example, say you pull out a net 1000, how much is needed above that to get your needed one thousand dollars....for taxes and such probably 200-300 to cover that, how much in penalties, guessing since i have no clue....so i will toss out another 200-300 for penalties(just a guess but if you follow the logic you will get the point i am coming to).....also factor in lost interest over the duration of the 401k......say 5 yrs, 10 yrs, etc....up to when you whould actually draw the money....only guessing when you retire....if your 401k matures lets say in 35 yrs, then i would use that figure for the 1000 plus dollars...(1400-1600) you withdraw to get a net $1000.....this is how much it would cost you to pull the $1000.........in lost interest
this figure that you finally occur at could be many thousands of dollars.....personally i would look for other ways to get the money, extra job, low interest loan (short term) gifted money from parents, spend less money, tighten the budget....
it may seem harmless to pull the money but factor in would you borrow $1000 for 5 years at 50% interest rate, probably not, yet i am speculating the money you pull from the 401K would net a loan rate that high or higher as an equivelent...... |
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Anna, CA
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The more you borrow, the less money you have to potentially grow for your retirement. If you take out any of your retirement savings plan money for a loan, that money is not invested and, therefore, is missing a potential opportunity for growth. Leave your money untouched and you could be looking at a better retirement lifestyle or an earlier retirement.
If you leave your company, you may have to repay the outstanding balance immediately, or within a shortened period of time. If you don’t, the outstanding amount will be considered a distribution, which will be subject to ordinary income taxes, and possibly a 10% early withdrawal penalty if you’re younger than age 59½.
You may pay for the privilege of taking a loan – with initial and ongoing fees such as initial setup and annual loan maintenance fees (depending on your plan provisions).
If your loan is for a home purchase, your fees may be lower than those for a mortgage. But you may not be able to refinance if rates drop, and you won’t be able to take a mortgage interest deduction on your income taxes. (Those deductions are reserved for mortgages.)
If you default on your loan, the IRS considers the outstanding balance a distribution.The distribution is subject to ordinary income taxes, and possibly to a 10% early withdrawal penalty if you’re younger than age 59½. |
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Mom of 2
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Most 401k plans will allow you to borrow up to 50% of your balance. The interest that is charged is paid back to your account. If your investment isn't making as much as the interest being charged, then it would definately be a good idea as you would in effect be earning more by repaying the loan.
A loan can be taken for any reason, since you are going to repay it, a "hardship withdrawal" however you can only get for very specific reasons, have proof of the debt, and proof of no other avenue to get the amount to pay the debt, and you will get taxed on the amount of the distribution. |
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marathonbdogg
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I would avoid it, if possible. You're better off letting it grow in a tax-deferred account. Sure, the interest you pay goes back to yourself, but you can generally earn more interest in your 401(k) investment than you can on the loan interest. Also, one thing a lot of people don't realize is that if it's a traditional 401(k), you're getting double-taxed on a loan. How? You contribute money on a pre-tax basis, but you pay it back with after-tax dollars. When you take it out at retirement, you pay taxes on it again. |
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TrentonQ
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Good luck, you can't touch it without severe penaltys.........This is why I have most of my investments in liquid assets. |
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richkvegas
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One thing to consider is if you have an outstanding loan balance and you lose your job that loan becomes due in full rather quickly or else it turns into a distribution with a 10% penalty from the IRS plus income tax. OUCH. |
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jackson
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If it is to pay property taxes or things around the house...... thats fine. But you need to make sure you get the money back in by a certain time as to avoid paying taxes on it. |
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Sara
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oh man, that sucks! THAT IS B>A>D!!!! |
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rebecca m
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i have no idea what a 401k is is it an american thing??? |
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Starduster55
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The only way you can borrow from your 401K is for an emergency like medical, or for a down payment on a house or tuition for school. |
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