Rob
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Ok, first you did something wrong to begin with. You should have made sure your agreement was written and added to the lease. That way this would have never happened.
Second, when she asked you to help pay for utilities, you should have agreed to pay half of the cost. She can't make money off of the place you live in when you're away because you still have your stuff there. So it would be polite to help pay a little bit of money.
And lastly, you are completely right to move out. If she completely isn't honoring her agreement, than that's rediculous.
Also, if your landlord is EVER rude to you, there's a problem. It depends on exactly how she acted, but if she insulted you or threatened you in any way (including threatening to charge rent an extra month, keep some of your stuff, etc.) than you should not stay on their property any longer. |
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kja63
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Did you get anything in writing? If you didn't, you will be hard-pressed to prove that your landlord will let you live rent-free in her apartment for 2 months. Granted, you won't physically be there, but your possessions occupy the premises and you are legally the tenant of record. |
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naughtyniceguy2007
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Unless the agreement was in writing, you not only legally have to pay the rent, but you also have to give her 30 days notice before you can move out. |
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NONAME
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if you didn't get it in writing its not enforceable and you did say that you signed a lease. she could sue you and get all her money. |
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Emanon
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When you rent a place your rent doesn't stop because you're out of town. She must've been loopy when she "agreed" to not let you pay rent for those months. Unless you had it in writing you are liable for the rent for those months. But why are you even asking this if you are already planning on moving out? |
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kittenthemagician
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your landlord is a snake, you should move. next time a person agrees to those type of terms get it in writing, that way you do not have to go through this again. |
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Crazy cat lady >^ ^<
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It's just a shame you did not get it in writting..move your stuff to a storage facility pay a pro-rated rent to your landlady |
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Eileen B
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First off what do you all have in writing? If nothing then anything goes. |
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cpttango30
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If this is just a verbial agrement then you did not have an agrement in many states.
Plus why would you expect to not pay your rent because you are out of town? That is like going on vaccation and not paying your mortgage. That is jsut stupid thinking.
If you just up and move out you can be held accountable for all lost rent between the time you left and the time your lease is up. Plus you will lose your securoty deposit and they might even go after you for damages. Either pay or move but expect to pay rent untill the place is rented again.
I knew plenty of people like this in the military. They would get depolied and stop making their car payment insurance payments. Then wonder why they did not have a car when they got back to the states. You don't pay you don't stay. |
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jakesnake
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I'm sorry to say, but your landlord's daughter has the right idea here. Even though you will be gone for 2 months, they are not able to use that space to make money any other way. When you rent a place you aren't renting the time it is used, but you are renting the actual space so it doesn't matter if you are there or not. As for whether or not it is the right thing for you to move out, if your lease is expired then you are free to move if you want. If your lease is still current, then moving out early can result in you having to pay for time you aren't living there if your landlord decides to take legal action. If that's what happens, it's usually not more than 2 months rent, but a judge would also probably make you pay the legal fees. Also, be mindful that you wouldn't be able to use this landlord for a reference when trying to find a new place to live. You could see if you can sublease the apartment for the months that you are out of town and solve everyone's problems. If you choose to go that route make sure you note everything in writing, with your landlord and the subleasing tennant. |
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Alexis
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your landlord shouldn't have agreed to the two months of no rent. I've never heard of someone not having to pay their rent because they are out of town for two months. I would say once you move in, you have to pay rent in town or not in town.
I live in an apt. I have to pay rent every month, If I go out of town and i do often. I must still pay my rent, because I'm occupying the apt. |
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fuzzykitty
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If a free month was is in your written agreement , then she owes it to you, But, what makes you think that you should not have to pay rent for a month when your away. You have moved in... If I decided to go away for a month, I doubt that my Mortgage holder would allow me to not pay my mortgage payment.. If your things occupy the space , then you pay the bill. |
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Pink Panther2 U
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Sounds like your landlord is a bit wishy washy. I am glad that you are moving. I would be suspect of any one who would go back on their word in a business deal. It tells you a lot about their personal character. |
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Tina D
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The thing is that you have no written agreement so that in court it wouldn't stand. Sorry but they are right your stuff is still there so you should pay. They would lose two months revenue over it. |
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Tamm
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if you are moving anyway, move.
If you had nowhere to go, you would pay the rent, right? Right. |
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Perplexed
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Think about this from her prospective. Why shouldn't she charge you? She rented it to you and she has no way to rent it to someone else for those two months.
So if she doesn't get her rent from you, then she looses sixteen percent of her annual income. Why should she do that? Would you?
And if you don't have something in writing, it doesn't count. It must be in writing , clearly stated and signed and dated by both of you.
If you want to move then move. But she is due the rent.
cheers. |
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srdtheman
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No, don't bend to their rules... if not in contract then don't do it. If the landlord agreed to your not paying the rent for 2 months that is her business not her sisters. If you feel bad enough just pay her a storage fee. Most storage buildings cost anywhere from $35 to $90 per month depending on size. Be blessed. |
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jjungema
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Unfortunately, she can do this because your original lease. If you had your original agreement written into your lease then you are free and clear. |
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Lisa T (Stop BSL)
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Well if that was the agreement you should have made her put it in writing. If she is now being rude, I say move out. To be honest though I have never heard of a landlord Not making you pay whether you are there or not. Usually if your stuff IS there, you technically are still occupying the property. |
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curmudgeon
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you MUST get all agreements in writing. If she reneges, move out. |
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rjcordova
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first off did you get it in writing that she would not charge you.
sec. did you pay the part of the utillitesw she asked of you.
third. ask her who owns it her or her sister. It would be cheaper for you in the end to just go rent a storage shed and not worry about it at all. then you avoid her being rude and wont have to wonder if she is gonna take you to court. at least that is what i would do.because if you gotta keep reminding her of the arrangement you made i would bet a dollar to a penny she wont keep her end. good lluck |
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Yeah, you're Jealous!
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yes you are but next time you do somthing like that get it in writing ya know not trying to be rude here! |
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Classy Granny
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You will have to give 30 days notice and maybe more if you have a lease. I never heard of not having to pay rent because you were out of town. Your stuff was there and she couldn't rent it to someone else. Are you doing the right thing? Only if you want the expense of another move. You probably will not get back any deposit. |
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Heather B
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Although she agreed to this at the time of you moving in, you do not have it in writing and therefore is not a binding agreement. Being that you are in a lease you are legally required to pay rent for those months as well as for the entire term of your lease. You will be held liable for this. Moving out now is only going to cause you more grief and money.
What I suggest is talking this over with her again in a calm manner. Stay for the term of your lease and move out at that time. Otherwise you are going to completely ruin your rental history. If you owned your home and went out of town for 2 months, you still have to pay your mortgage. Your bills don't take a vacation with you. |
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K
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Definatly. If you made an agreement and she broke it, why stay. You should always get things like that in writing! |
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Expert Realtor
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I wouldn't move out, I would just pay for the two months and stay put...keep in mind that no other landlord on the planet would have agreed to let you store your stuff in an apartment rent-free for two months...so it would have been an expense you would have had anyway.
I think staying where you are is cheaper....moving is very expensive, and if you like the place, there really doesn't seem to be a point.
Unless you had it in writing, if she sues you for the two months, she will probably win, b/c a judge will wonder why a landlord would agree to such an arrangement...which in essence, cost the LANDLORD money...so why would she foot the bill for you?
I'm not saying that happened, but that is what a judge is going to think. |
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bonstermonster20
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The real question is, did she put it in writing? If not and you agreed to a lease for a particular amount of time you are bound to that agreement legally and she can take you to small claims court over it. Words mean nothing when it comes to the law. If it is on paper it might as well be written in stone. Be careful. If she is having monetary problems you are right to move out, but don't cut off your nose to spite your face. |
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icprofit2000
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In most states but not all, agreement regarding real estate must be in writing to be enforceable in court .
You should immediately write down dates of conversation and what you thought was stated in as much detail as possible.
Were there any witness to these conversations?
You might consider getting an impartial person as witness and/or as a arbiter for any additional conversations.
If it was me, I would offer to pay for the next 30 days (including a portion of Jan rent) and move my stuff before the end of the month. Consider writing an agreement and ask her to sign it, If she does not agree ask that she state her reason in writing.
Your landlord should not be storing your property. |
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CHRIS W
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You should have got her to put in writing her plans about the payments and any deviation from that contract should also have been documented |
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Rikounet
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It's sort of a strange situation, renting on and off, never hear of that. Not very beneficial to the landlord. But if she agreed in writing I guess you're in your right. Anyhow, the relationship is sour now and perhaps it's best to leave. |
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beth_eliza
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If she agreed to it, it should have been put in writing and signed. But, it wasn't so she is able to change her mind.
Although you weren't there, your stuff still was and your landlord was unable to rent it to someone else with your stuff there. |
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