Landlord illegally subletting housing association house, now faced with eviction, help!?

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Landlord illegally subletting housing association house, now faced with eviction, help!?

My fiance and I have been privately renting a house for 3 months now, and 3 days before christmas, a lady from a local housing association knocked here and informed us we were illegally subletting the house and we would have to vacate, we was told we would not be thrown onto the streets and nothing would happen over the christmas period, the man we are renting from is not a very nice person, and never informed us of the fact he did not have the jurisdiction to rent out this property, he is not aware we know about the current predicament and all of a sudden contacted us asking for us to pay a deposit (something that was not asked for at the time) he is expecting a months rent ВЈ600, plus said deposit today, my fiance and I really do not know what to do, we are going to pack up our things and try and get out as soon as possible, but we are really concerned he will let himself in when we are at work and throw our belongings onto the streets ( i wouldnt be suprised!) has anyone had any similar experiences? or can anyone offer any advice as to what we should do/say etc, the housing association has told us not to pay him but i have a feeling he will demand it anyway, any advice would be most welcome! also, we have a contract but we have since been told its actually void because he has no rights to rent the house out! help! :(

eriverpipe

yes your contract is entirely void. very unfortunate situation you are in, and I would advise that you make your exit as near immediately as possible, as the possibility of him entering the house and either helping himself to your things or wrecking the place is high indeed.
That kind of really is the only meaningful advice available - you need to get out, and now.

Judy teen - your advice is highly flawed. For one thing, the landlord would indeed not be looking to evict them - he cannot, but the Housing Association CAN and will - they are not the tenants of the house to whom they have let it, and therefore they can retake possession. Admittedly it may take some time.... BUT... their key concern is that the 'landlord' may enter their house and throw out their property - and it seems he would not be above that sort of behaviour - so do you really think he's going to give a stuff about due process???). Now IF he does that, what advice would you have for the asker? They would have no enforcable right to move back in as they have no valid contract.

ezekiel

You should inform the woman from the housing association right away.

Brenda

Do not pay this man anything. I understand the concern about what he may or may not do as even though he needs to give you notice that he's coming into your place; he may not do that because he's not operating lawfully in the first place.

Sounds like the Housing Association is surely on your side. If you are concerned about your things; change the locks ! A small price to pay to keep him out and give you time to pack up your things and find a new place.

The Lock Smiths need to know that a place is a persons place to do this ~ hopefully the Housing Association could assist you there. Otherwise, it really is a matter of getting out of there as quickly as possible . . . do not give this man another dime.

Cornish Granny

Don't pay the deposit he has no rights to it, and find other accommodation fast. You have no legal right to be there. Sorry its hard but you could find yourself out on the street.

Marcus

The bloke renting you the flat doesn't have the right to rent because it belongs to a housing association?

You should be talking to the Police not asking us; that's fraud and the housing association won't be giving him his deposit back so he wants it from you. He knows you know, that's why he has suddenly contacted you in an attempt to cut his losses.

The housing association is also in sticky pooh as they are supposed to know who lives in their properties. Regards their ability to evict you without any particular reason other than you have been paying a middle man to live there, I don't see why they would want the cost, all they need is the said deposit and the rent is obviously cheaper. Saves them having to advertise a vacancy. CAB might be able to cut you a deal there, so it is worth contacting them.

Judy Teen

Well what country are you in? It does help if you tell us.
If you are UK then do this: Go to your local council or housing benefit office and tell them the situation. Do not pay your landlord a deposit.
And if necessary go to citizens advice.
Firstly, your landlord cannot just put you out in the street, he needs to take court action. Secondly, he is illegally renting to you. Thirdly, the local authorities will advise you in the best possible way and may even help to prevent you from becoming homeless. (ie, any eviction action would cause you to become unintentionally homeless).
It may be neccessary to continue paying him rent, but I would hold off until speaking to the local authority. Even though you may not be on benefits, your housing benefit office is possibly the best to advise you.

WelshLad

You pay that deposit and you can kiss that goodbye.

Personally I would change the locks asap.

Faye knows best.

Don't pay the deposit, he has no right to it. If you're worried he'll let himself in get the locks changed. It'll cost a lot less than the deposit the "landlord" is asking for. He probably has found this out and that's why he is suddenly asking for a deposit that he never asked for before. Don't worry, the housing association will probably find you another house to live in.

Cari

I would call the lady at the Housing Association and ask if *you* can change the locks. That way the guy can't get in while you're out to remove all your stuff. I'm not sure whether he would actually do it anyway - there would certainly be no benefit in it for him. If a couple of weeks have gone past then he could have found new tenants so would want to get you out, but there would be no point him doing it immediately.

Don't pay any money to him at all. Whenever he calls and asks for it, just fob him off and tell him you've already transferred the money or something like that. Since you're renting privately and aren't dependent on a council or housing association yourself, you should easily be able to find somewhere else within about two weeks or even less, so you'll be fine to keep fobbing him off. You say that he doesn't know that you know about the situation - well, just keep acting normal so he doesn't get suspicious.

The housing association are correct; your contract is entirely void so don't worry about that.

golden rider

I would change the locks on all the doors and do as you were planning to do and move out. Once you have moved out and have all of your belongings, go back and put his locks back in the doors and drop off the key or just leave the key inside where he can find it, lock the doors and call him and tell him you are out of the house and don't say anything more. Just tell him and hang up.

lolly

You need a lawyer.

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