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wait. | Should I tell my landlord if my boyfriend moves into my apartment? Will the rent go up if so? |
My boyfriend is moving in with my after the first of the year and I can't decide if I should tell my landlord. I live in a large complex so it's likely they would never notice, but he will be getting mail and packages and whatnot. Obviously I'm aware that I did sign a lease agreeing that I was the only tenant and if that changed I was supposed to notify. I'm just not sure of the actual seriousness of that. A lot of people my age (mid-20's) move around a lot, cram extra people into apartments, etc. It seems to be common so I can't imagine it being a huge issue.
My main question is this: I'll probably end up telling them just because I feel it's the right thing, but is it customary for them to add any rent money in that case and why? I don't see why they would. No utilities are included in the rent (I even pay for trash) so there's no extra cost to them. If they did raise the rent - to me it would just seem to be a way to gouge more money for no reason.
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To answer someone below about waiting a month or so to make sure it's permanent. That isn't really an issue. We've been together for two years now. We've been talking about this for months and planning it. It's not just something we're giving a whirl. He will probably be a permanent tenant.
I'm 95% sure I will tell them, even though I don't see them ever evicting me even if they did find out later that I didn't. I've lived there for years and been a good tenant. Plus there are empty units. It's not like they have people on a waiting list trying to get in. Just because they have a legal right to doesn't mean they will. They're good people. On the same note that is why I will tell them. I just want to know what to expect when I let them know and how to approach it. How big of an issue is it going to be? |
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wickdsinnr
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I don't know where Mary B is getting her information, but if it states in your lease that all occupants over 18 must be signers on the lease, then yes, you need to tell your landlord.
The reason why your property management company wants to know if you move someone in is simple. They want to approve him to live there, just as you were approved to live there. Think of it this way...
Let's say your next door neighbor in the community moved in her boyfriend. And that boyfriend just happens to be a sex offender or just got out of jail for aggravated rape and assault, or even murder. Wouldn't YOU feel better knowing that the management company enforces the policy of approving everyone that moves into the community? So if your neighbor doesn't tell the management that she moved someone in, you now have a very dangerous person living next door to you, which compromises your safety.
Go to the management office and tell them about your boyfriend. Most likely he will have to fill out an application, be run through a background check, and then he can be added to your lease legally.
You wonder how the management company can find out if he's living there if you don't tell them. Very easily - the US Post Office. Every other week I give my mailperson an updated list of residents in my community, because so many people don't bother fowarding mail when they move out. He'll bring mail in that isn't on his list and ask me if "so and so" moved into apartment #123. That's how I find out if someone has moved in that I haven't authorized. And that resident gets a 3-Day Notice to Comply or Quit for having an unauthorized resident.
And Mary B, as a property manager for the last 10 years, I have successfully evicted people for having unauthorized residents. I don't know what state you're living in, but it sounds like you're burnt out in your property management job. It may be time for a change. When you stop caring about your community, including the residents living there, it's time to move on. |
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stef
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If you were renting from me I would not put the rent up as you are paying for the property as a whole not for however many people reside in it. Not knowing your landlord or your tenancy agreement I would suggest that you wait to notify your landlord just in case your boyfriend only stays a short while - surely you are allowed to have visitors for short stays. Also, you say a lot of people move around a lot and cram extra into apartments so are you able to have a word with a few of them and see what happened to them in this situation? Hope you manage to sort it out and well done for wanting to be honest - usually it really is best. Good luck.
I have to disagree with proudpre - not all landlords suck you dry, this person has had a bad experience and that is horrible but landlords also get taken for a ride by tenants who do not pay and then leave the property in an unlivable state - this is from personal experience. But this is typical of life there are the good who interact on an acceptable level and there are the bad who just "do it" to the rest of us. |
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Pagan Dan
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You probably do not have any choice in the matter, and you need to tell the landlord. Your tenancy agreement probably says that all persons actually living in the place must be on the agreement.
They might want to "approve" your boyfriend, but you sound like an OK person so I imagine that your boyfriend is an OK guy.
Unless there is a specific provision in your rental agreement that says that the unit is for one person only and there will be a charge for extra people, I can't see how your rent will go up.
So. Tell the landlord. |
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I am a landlord, and I disagree with this common practice.
There is NO LAW in any state that requires the landlord to have the names of occupants of a rental property, to me, it's just the landlord being nosy.
Furthermore, even IF this provision is included in the lease...to include all occupants...it is not enforceable in court as long as the number of occupants does not violate max limits. It's as worthless as the paper it's written on...don't assume that everything in the lease is enforceable, b/c it's not.
You rent the space, and all the landlord needs to be concerned about is if you can qualify to pay the rent. If he collects the rent every month, then there is nothing he can do about it...despite what he may threaten.
The only exception is if you have it in your lease that they issue parking stickers and reserve the right to tow anyone that doesn't have a parking sticker...then you don't have a choice. That is usually the way around it, but this practice is also difficult to police b/c you always run the risk of towing a guest.
However, the landlord CANNOT legally force you to have him as a co-leasee, and if he's listed as an occupant that still gives you legal control of the apartment.
Keep in mind that REGARDLESS if he is paying or not, if things don't work out, you still have to give him a 30 day notice to leave.
PS: I have never seen a case in court where a landlord has been able to successfully terminate a lease or get a conviction b/c a leasee moved someone in without telling the landlord...the question the judge asks is: Were you getting full rent in a timely manner every month? When they answer yes...that is when the case ends.
Only stupid landlords that want to get rid of good paying tenants go the legal route. |
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nadia g
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I guess the reason they want to know how many people are renting the apartment is to stop the tenant sub-leasing a room illegally. If it's your boyfriend, they have no right to increase the rent or to stop you from having whoever you want stay with you. It is after all YOUR home. And you are right to say you will let them know anyway. I hope they are as decent people as you are. |
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Alterfemego
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You are taking a BIG risk here. Not only risking losing your place altogether, but being stuck should the relationship not work out.
I suggest you speak to the landlord and ask for their advise on how to legally handle this. I would want him to sign and be legally responsible for part of the lease agreement.
Honey I know you're in love and he could never do anything.... STOP STOP STOP -- things can change and I want you to protect yourself. Make him sign a legally binding contract with you, or he doesn't move in.
I don't want to see you on here a few months from now, crying that he left you and you can't afford the whole rent payment! At that point - "you've made your bed, now lay in it"!
So take my advise and be smart and always protect yourself financially. |
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Daisyhill
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I dont think they could raise the rent...unless he accounts for "wear and tear" on the apartment...2 people being tougher on things than one. The thing is, if you didnt tell him how would he ever know that your boyfriend was not just satying over a few nights a week? He wouldnt....unless he came poking around inside! God luck. |
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ptruelove01
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For one thing, your landlord's can't raise the rent until your signed lease agreement is expired. Secondly, they can legally evict you if they find that you have moved in another tenant since you signed the agreement stating that you are the only tenant. In their eyes, another tenant would be a trespasser on the premises. It would only be the right thing to tell your landlord of your new living arrangement.
I do agree with Stef above about waiting for a few weeks to see if your boyfriend will be a permanent fixture in your apartment. Guests are allowed anytime. If, for some reason, you decide that you want him to leave, not having him on the lease will be easier to have him evicted from the property.
Anyone staying over 24 hours under any roof does not have to leave simply because of asking. You would have to get a court order after 30 days and have them legally served to vacate the premises. |
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proudpreemieparents
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Property owners are like that...they'll suck as much as they can out of you. I'd think that yes, your rent will go up even if you're paying all of the utlities yourself. Another person in a place means more wear and tear. They may just jack it up more due to the fact that it's a boyfriend and not a spouse. Our landlords did that. Crooks! |
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