Monet
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are you sure it's not a scam. I would call the farmer tax line, not the number you got in the mail but a REAL number make sure! |
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wayfaroutthere
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Don't know what to say--that's sad. Here in the US, no one could get politicians to do anything for the farmers either, until the politicians and big companies bought up big chunks of farmland. Then there were suddenly all kinds of subsidies and tax breaks. (The number of "farmers" in Congress is amazing.)
A previous poster was on the right track, but you may be able to do better. If you can easily gather a bunch of other farmers together, go ahead, but you can probably get action going straight to the elected representative from your area based on your case alone. He probably has a staff of people to help citizens tied down by unreasonable beuraucratic messes. Sometimes putting this complaint in the office of an elected official can get things cleaned up in your case--they'll get a staffer to help you through the red tape, and if they get enough similar complaints, they may try to actually fix the laws to simplify matters. |
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James Dean
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Well, atleast the governments of the world are consistant. They come up with anything just to get money out of you. However you are running a business. Everyone else has to pay fee's, why shouldn't farmers? I am not against farmers, but they make a profit...you don't grow food to do good for humanity, you do it to make a profit.
In Canada, all the farmers got together and drove their tractors down a busy highway to protest. You should try doing something like that. |
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NYC_Since_the_90s
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So do you owe 40 years in penalties for your illegal farm? |
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Police Artist
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Hello
this unfortunately has to be a job for a lawyer.
It's like everything in life, if you have money you can pay other people to sort the problem out for you.
If you have no money its going to take a lot of your time to address the issues.
I wish you well - good luck |
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LondonGRL
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What a nightmare for you and your family. Why don't you contact Watchdog and get some public support. Sounds like you're not on your own and probably plenty of farmers are facing a similar predicament.
Farmers are never taken care of, its a real crime. |
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O Wise One
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So sorry to hear your plight. Perhaps you could do some research in a law library. There may be some grandfather clause that will exempt you from the licensing, or at least buy you some time to gather the funds. The paperwork is their way of confusing the hell out of you. Unfortunately the "Police Artist" may have a point. It could be a job for a lawyer. And gathering other farmer friends together with the same problem wouldn't hurt. You could all make a date/appointment to speak with an official from your area. But whatever you do...don't discount the "Power of One" you could be that "one" who changes everything. |
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doktordbel
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I live in the US and this is one way the government gets what it wants. They pass bills and make laws that force people to do their will. Try to find others that have been shafted in a similar fashion and fight this. their is power in numbers. Remember politics comes from the latin: poly: many; ticks: blood-sucking little vermin. |
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bradxschuman
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Is it actually legal to run a farm there without a license over the past 40 years???
If any laws were violated in that regard, there may not be a whole lot you can do about it. |
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Time & Again
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You probably have the same problem there as in the US. Too many lawyers running the government. |
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mah
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Is there a specific name of a person or department you can contact to ask about all of this? Is there a telephone number or e-mail address you can contact? To ask them about why they need all this paperwork, maps, etc?There should be someone you should be able to contact. And ask them directly about just what is going on. |
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tarkenberg199
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I suppose the only people who have ntoiced it are people like your family who are forced through the paperwork. If it's bothering you (and hey, it's even bothering me and I'm nto in the same country as you), start a protest! And feel free to advertise your farm as 'Green, clean, and British'. I know in America we have a sort of 'Buy American' mentality sometimes, and I'm sure local farm-fresh products would be appealing. |
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kissybertha
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you need a good attorney to go through the papers for you, the government probably now sees that you are operation a farm that brings in income, I know in the US they want us to pay taxes on our dogs and cats, I feel when I pay the vet for Rabies tags and vaccinations that is enough. I know the only way we can buy American goods is to travel to another country. |
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whatevit
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In all governments there is People that are in charge of the decisions that result in the chaos that is caused. Contact your fellow citizens and draft a letter to these people. If everyone sign the letter, these people will listen.
Also contact people that will be affected adversely, draft another letter that request the government people to not enforce the decisions that have been made. Have these people sign this letter, and have the signers of the first letter sign the second letter. This approach works in America, it is not fool proof and only work when things are WRONG. |
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Jed
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Something is seriously wrong somewhere.
I think you need to find someone with a sympathetic ear in the government, but they must be in a position with some clout.
I hope you make it through. |
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Faeldaz M
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It's hard for the government to exercise power over you unless it passes laws that are impossible to follow or even understand. There are so many laws today in most countries that it's impossible to know all of them and pretty much impossible to go about your daily life without breaking. Some of them are even contradictory.
And yet people keep thinking that the government will help, instead of being the source of the problems. |
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Ed
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The scam has not gone unnoticed. The problem is that after Cromwell and his little revolution, things went back to the way they were.
Whenever the rules change, which is every day in parliament, it is your responsibility to comply.
That is why there are CPA's and solicitors.
The rules are so thick and deep, you need them to shovel the paper.
Ask your neighbours if they are in the same quagmire. Jointly hire a team of professionals to deal with it.
You need to follow procedure, file objections and request extensions.
Sorry for your luck, but its the nature of the beast.
We had a scandal in Walkerton, Ontario were seven people died because the government mismanaged offal waste. They got off scott free, and changed the rules. Now the farmers are responsible for waste management. |
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gerrifriend
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That's absolutely outragous! I don't live in the UK any more (thank god) but I think you have a point. They do seem to be working against the agricultural industry rather than with it. It's hard enough to make a living farming without this. |
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none
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That's the EU trying to stop issues like mad cow's and e-coli. Yell at your fellow farmers to clean up their acts and these precautions wouldn't be required. It's for the safety of Europeans, and is a necessary evil until each person becomes socially responsible for their actions. |
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Clown Knows
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Unfortunately, history indicates that governments gradually evolve so many laws and regulations that each government eventually collapses under its own laws and regulations. That is true as well here in Pennsylvania, USA. Our governor has been in the newspapers multiple times for his attempts to find new ways of taxing the residents to raise money for him to spend. I recently received a notice in the mail, and have as the result given up trying to start a business in Pennsylvania. |
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angel09
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I'm sorry they're giving you a hard time. I wouldn't worry about them giving you the paper work a month late, technically, they're 40 years late. There must be something in the government that says they can't go back that far. That's completely unfair. It's not ur fault they can't keep track of their own country. Maybe speak with a lawyer? |
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tracy y
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Because it can! They can get away with whatever they like and there isn't a thing we can do about it! Sorry! |
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FörtyTwö
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You are being evicted, I am a plain talker, and it appears as if someone has your land in mind for their wants. They nudged up to some politician, cigars were smoked, agreements were made, you have been hoodwinked.
Now that we have the facts and the reality has set in, what are you going to do? get a crowd of people to talk at the ones that are stealing the land. yes, it would help if it was on record. careful though, do not get arrested for anything, matter of fact,if you can trust, and i mean really trust, your people then you should not even think of showing your face to a cop.
To get right, you are gonna have to get dirty, really dirty. Shifty, sneaky then be ready to go to London with cameras. Film everything that you are allowed to. Every move, every action and get clock shots.
Your in for a fight kiddo, I wish you safe passage and hope that you persevere over those creatons. |
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emmettgolf
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It is sickening. The City (The Crown) probably has something to do with this. They would return everyone to serfdom. |
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PRS
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Sounds like a bunch of bureaucratic red tape designed to keep the government people employed. I live in the US and that sort of thing happens here all the time - they make it harder and harder for the single family farmers to make ends meet until the only farmers that can make it are the big corporations. Then everyone is asking what happened to the family farms? The answer is that the government wrapped them up so tight in red tape that they suffocated. |
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Tommy
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Sorry to hear of your plight and I think you have enough ideas about a response. However, let me point out a couple of things.
Here in the U.S. you need an environmental impact statement to do just about anything on a farm or add to or take away anything from a farm. For example to sell gravel from your place you need a statement with maps and photos and the buyer needs one too!! Of course you get the maps and photos from the government which has every inch of you, your farm and your buyer pre-recorded.
It is interesting to me that your little sheep and chicken farm has nearly one dozen wind turbines. Here in the U.S. private ownership of such is illegal and was made illegal by Congress before the first one was ever imported. On top of that the average U.S. citizen could not afford one wind turbine if they saved every penny they made during their life time. If you had a dozen wind turbines in America you would probably have some clout in Washington, D.C.
Finally, U.S. agriculture is controlled by hardly more than seven families. How is it over there? The environmental card is being played world wide to control agendas which have nothing to do with the love and care of mother nature. |
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Anu Y.
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so, everyone has a messed up government, eh? i'm sorry this is happening to you. i am not a farmer, and not a brit. i really don't have any advice to give you. all i can say is my husband is government owned (military) so, i am very familiar with the things that just come up out of nowhere and make absolutely no sense but to cause migraines. good luck to you and your family. keep the word alive so maybe people won't buy so much foreign food, and stick to what the local farmers are providing. |
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Surfer
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It has gone unnoticed because they have let it get out of control and the thing is they are to proud to admit that they are at a loss.
Here they worry about Gay marriages like in my eyes who cares who marries who no one will starve over same sex marriages.
Also they worry about lights on for nothing yet you go downtown and three quarters of the Government buildings are on.lol I even remember once years and years ago where the Brewers retail had gone on strike that was nasty for most but wait!!! someone from the newspaper got one good shot of the backdoor to our Parliament guess what was backing up there yes a beer truck.I could go on and on but to me now a days its everyone for themselves sad to say.If come voting day everyone would just put an X on there ballet they would have no choice but to change Governments. |
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The Cythian
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I really feel sorry for you and your family, but there is little I can recommend that will get you out of this Catch-22 situation. All I can say is welcome to the EU, and the socialist government which has been flexing ist muscles in Britain for the last 40 years. They will use any means at all, including the green revolution (which the Shah of Iran coined about 50 years ago), to take over and redistribute the lands of hard working people.I would recommend that you contact your member of Parliament and give him/her all the info and hope for the best. Secondly, I would suggest that you begin contacting local and national newspapers to blow the whistle on these vultures.
Good luck! |
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williamdp
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Put all that crap in a file, and wait till they knock on your door. Sounds like a bunch of crap to me. Mate, Eh, |
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