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Gismo | Question regarding tax and part-time work.? |
Ugh, this is really bad, but anyway...
I lied on my resume syaing that I had worked before when I actually hadn't. Anyway, I got a job and the manager told me to bring in my P45 form (I think that's the equivalent of a employment certificate SC3). Trouble is I don't have one!
If I tell her that it was a casual job before and I got paid from the till, so I didn't get a form what will happen? Will revenue hunt me down and have me for fraud?
Or does anyone have any other suggestions as to what I could do? |
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suerye
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You just tell them you have lost it and ask for a form P46 - it happens all the time.
EDIT: One step down - I am not suggesting that the asker does not declare her previous earnings - merely that she hides her previous situation from her employer, which is what seems to be concerning her the most. The asker seems to be saying she has not had a job before, so she is not hiding anything from HMRC - and you know very well that I would never suggest anyone defrauds HMRC! |
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mainwoolly
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If you haven't got a P45, Just ask your employer for a P46.
Tick the box that says "This is my only or main job", sign it, give it to your employer to send to the tax office, and you're up and running.
Happens all the time...people lose P45s etc. |
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madge
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Why did you lie? i am surprised they have not rang the person you said you had been working for.But as you have began, say you were paid cash in hand., and ask her for a P46, where you will put down you have had no other job since April this year. The employer will then put you on emergency tax code |
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Onestep downfrom God
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Is Fengirl2 complicit in this fraud? |
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Stamford57
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HMRC will not waste time looking for you; you won't be worth it.
Just tell your payroll manager/boss that you don't have a P45 (no need to say why) and ask for a form P46. You will be asked to declare if it's your only or main job, to which you will truthfully answer "Yes" and, if your boss is doing their job properly, they will present that P46 to HMRC.
HMRC will then set up a tax record for you. They may write to ask you for your employment history, to which you will answer that you had no previous job. I've assumed from your question that you didn't really have a casual job, but even if you did, you won't have had a tax record if you were paid cash in hand.
HMRC are not allowed to discuss personal histories of employees with their employers; the relationship will exist only between you and HMRC. That is why tax "codes" are used. So that no employer is made aware of whether someone is single, has other earnings, investment income, pensions, etc. A single person will normally have a 522L tax code, but the employer will never know for sure how that tax code is made up.
If I were you, I'd relax, put it down to experience and hope that your employer doesn't find out you lied on your resume. If you prove yourself to be a hard worker and a worthy employee, I'm sure they'll cut you some slack. Just get your tax code right and don't, whatever you do, lie to HMRC. |
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laplandfan
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to be honest you have let yourself in for a fall by telling porkies to your new employer. Whatever possessed you to do that?
Your new employer will want your last employers name and address usually. Did they not need a reference too?
If you tell another lie saying you got paid cash in hand then that doesn;t look good either for you or the person that employed you as it's portraying you as a tax evader!
I hate taxation too trust me but there are two certain things in life.....taxation and death! |
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Izzy
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a p45 is a form you get when you leave your job it states how much tax you paid whilst in that job.
personally i think your best bet is to say you were working for a member of your family or a friend and did not recieve a wage from them you were just helping out hence why you were never put on their books and do not have a p45 |
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Andy J
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Your in quite a pickle! Find another job, they will still want to contact your former employer especially if you don't have a p45 |
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tringyokel
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I don't think it is really bad - yet, but the situation depends on what you do now. And this will depend on exactly how much you colluded with the employer in your unofficial job.
You haven't actually lied to your new employer as you did have a job (unless you put down fictitious details but that would have been down to the employer to check). So far nor problem.
Complete the form P46 as others have advised and you will have the correct tax deducted from the time the new employment starts.
The problem will come later as HMRC will want to know what you have been doing since you were last officially employed (or in education). They will send a form and you should think carefully before completing this.
If you put down that you didn't earn anything you will be committing a tax fraud and it will be in writing, so impossible to deny. Obviously the correct course of action is to come clean and tell the truth at this point but I would understand if you, shall we say, "misrepresented" the source of your income. At least you will be charged the tax on it so will have paid your dues. |
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Aerospace Engineer
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You may have a problem with your taxes; not in the way that they will 'hunt you down', more to the fact that you may end up paying more tax than you need to because you can't prove how much money you earned in the previous job - hence the reason for a P45.
If the inland revenue asks about previous employment earnings - probably best not to mention your 'cash in hand' job! Otherwise you may get a tax bill for the time you were there, depending on whether your earnings were above £4,250 a year, since this is the threshold for tax free earnings.
You can get along without one, though the payroll department will probably put you on the tax code 'BR', which is also known as the emergency tax code, and it comes to around 20 odd percent of your earnings.
You will get this money back (eventually); when the new financial year comes around in April, the inland revenue will have a earnings history for this financial year, so you will be entitled to a tax rebate. Its a pain in the bum having to wait, but at least you get a nice lump sum eventually - though you have to ask for it, since they will not do it automatically - this is the taxman were talking about! |
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